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afdip

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our confused president
« on: July 25, 2006, 01:11:40 PM »
from molly ivins' column this morning:  " The poor man who is currently our president has reached such a point of befuddlement that he thinks stem cell research is the same as taking human lives, but that 40,000 dead Iraqi civilians are progress toward democracy."  pretty succinct, doncha' think??

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2006, 01:32:07 PM »
flip sides of the same coin.

the only stance that makes any moral sense is to completely renounce the taking of any human life, nascent or not.

this is an impossibility when crazy people are on the loose and human survival demands the loss of life.

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2006, 01:58:09 PM »
afdip... if you read Molly Ivans on a regular basis and if you believe what she says even half the time you have a problem.  I'm not questioning the quote... just making a statement ;D

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2006, 05:56:17 PM »
Afdip lets kill a neocon's baby and stem cell you a new brain.

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2006, 06:41:44 PM »
Guest.

One word.

"Ugh."

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2006, 04:19:11 PM »
Afdip did you know a neocon is a conservative Jew ? So that makes you liberals antisemite.

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2006, 05:45:28 PM »
actually, moronic guest, the neocons bounded forth from up in washington state, and their early god was karl wittfogel (i guess you'll have to read "oriental despotism"), he came to this country in the 1930's and settled out west.  there were many early adherents, including scoop jackson and donald treadgold (who taught russian history) . . . some would argue that ayn rand was one of their group.  this new batch doesn't hold a candle intellectually to the old guard.  as a jew, i can hardly qualify as an anti-semite, as i am not a proponent of self-loathing.  the original neo-cons were virulently anti-communist -- the new batch feel that they are the founders of a new world order.  unfortunately for them, little in this world is new and few of them have learned the lessons of history.  even their current theorist, francis fukuyama has recanted much of his earlier thought.

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2006, 06:29:19 AM »
Afdip you as usual are way off base. GET A GRIP!!!
 

 
 
Neoconservatism is a political current and ideology, mainly in the United States, which emerged in the 1960s, coalesced in the 1970s, and has had a significant presence in the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. It is most closely identified with a set of foreign policy positions and goals: a hawkish stance during the Cold War and, more recently, in various conflicts in the Middle East. At times there have been distinct neoconservative positions in domestic policies; in particular, the first generation of neoconservatives were generally less opposed to "big government" and to social spending than other U.S. conservatives of the time.

The prefix "neo" can denote that many of the movement's founders, originally liberals, Democrats or from socialist backgrounds, were new to conservatism, but can also refer to the comparatively recent emergence of this "new wave" of conservative thought, which derived from a variety of intellectual roots in the decades following World War II. While some (such as Irving Kristol) have described themselves as "neoconservatives", the term is used more by opponents and critics of this political current than by its adherents, some of whom reject even the claim that neoconservatism is an identifiable current of American political thought.

Within American conservatism, neoconservatism is particularly contrasted to isolationism, especially as found in paleoconservatism. While the neoconservatives share some of the Christian right critique of a purely secular society, this is not as central to their politics as it is for the Christian right.

Neoconservatism is associated with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard and some of the foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). Neoconservative journalists, pundits, policy analysts, and politicians, often dubbed "neocons" by supporters and critics alike, have been credited with (or blamed for) their influence on U.S. foreign policy, especially under the administrations of Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) and George W. Bush (2001-present).

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2006, 07:03:58 AM »
Guest's words are filched from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-conservative

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2006, 08:22:10 AM »
wikipedia is not, unfortunately, the definitive answer to almost anything, but at most a cursory glance.  what i said about the neo-cons and their genesis stands:  karl wittfogel, scoop jackson, donald treadgold, the hoover institute, ad nauseam.

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2006, 11:52:32 AM »
KarmaPolice,  I never got to say "Welcome" to you, so here it is.  I'm glad you're here, helping with the research and blowing the bs lid off that 55 gallon drum of idiocy posted by "guest".

I love Wikipedia.  I sometimes spend hours reading there, but their information isn't always accurate.

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Re: our confused president
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2006, 06:06:32 PM »
Thanks for the most gracious welcome, Jack!