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Tom Rubillo
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« on: May 22, 2019, 06:26:29 PM »

Drive down Front Street and, if you look for it, you'll notice gray sand and small cinders on the street adjacent to the steel mill.   Its origin is the slag heap adjacent to mill furnaces that is cooled by water pumped over it.  That sand and those small pebbles must be swept up regularly.  If not, storm water will wash it into the new drainage system.  Over time this combination of particulate matter -- sand and cinders -- and water will damage the pumps that move storm water up hill from Dozier to Wood Street before flowing down by Wood gravity into the Sampit. (The new drainage system was designed to remove potential flood waters in that way.)  That which is not dissolved and pumped away will pile up in the pipes, clogging them.

The mill promised to be a good neighbor.  It would be nice if it assumed responsibility for keeping the streets surrounding the mill clear of the sand and cinders that are the result of its operations.  If it doesn't, the city needs to step in and make sure the streets and curbs and drains remain clear.  There will be a cost associated with that either way.  The question is whose ox will get gored in the process, the taxpayers or the mill?  But make no mistake.  Ignoring the problem will not save anyone anything.  Sooner or later looking the other way will result in a breakdown of the system and the need to pay to clean out the underground pipes and replacing burned out pumps.  Expensive either way.

Maintenance.  It can be a b.....
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concernedperson
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2019, 09:39:55 AM »

Orders are not where the new owners thought they would be by now. The manager has already been replaced. I predict the small problem will take care of itself soon. The mill will close again......soon.
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Tom Rubillo
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2019, 12:45:12 PM »

The problem remains as long as the mill is in operation and no one cleans up after it.  Cinders and sand continue to accumulate and wash into the new drainage system.  Some of it blocks pipes.  The smaller, sand-like particles turn the storm water into a slurry or sludge and makes the pumps work harder, burning those expensive pieces of infrastructure hardware out prematurely.  That's an unnecessary and avoidable expense and burden on both the infrastructure and the taxpayers.  It is easily avoided by simply sweeping up the cinders and sand that finds its way onto the street near the drainage system inlets before that debris gets into the system.  Simple enough.  Whether the steel mill takes care of the problem like an otherwise slovenly teenagers are tasked by responsible parents to clean up after themselves or the city acts like a timid and an overly indulgent parent and cleans up the mess itself, the task needs to be done.  I understand that this sounds like a small problem.  But it was exactly this same problem that led to the clogging of the old drainage canal through the steel mill and the burning out of the pumps at the old outflow into the Sampit that created the massive flooding that ultimately led to the construction of the new, multi-million dollar system now in use (and, as "collateral damage" during the interim period,  the collapse of a privately owned building at the corner of Prince and Fraser,the undermining of buildings that housed businesses across the street, damage to the fire station, damage to the Bank of America building that caused the bank to move, the abandonment of the otherwise quite adequate city hall and its demolition and full employment for attorneys). Or doesn't anybody remember?  How about it folks.  How about learning from past experience.  Yeah, I know it all seems like a small problem and sounds like some grouchy old man is just griping, but it is your community, your city government and your tax dollars.                       
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IWCCTTT
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2019, 05:43:45 PM »

Did anyone else see the facebook posts by Rod Stalvey about sewage being pumped into the Sampit from the city sewer facility? The steel mill is stopping up the drainage system and the waste treatment facility is floating terds in the river. Georgetown is a great place to call home!
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Tom Rubillo
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2019, 09:49:32 PM »

There is a posting on Facebook from GAB News asking for photos of flooding around Front and Fraser.  HuhHuh?
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concernedperson
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2019, 09:51:29 AM »

The mill has reduced turns. They are not running on weekends. The betting window is now open for the next closure. "Soon" will be a lot quicker than the union boss's soon was.
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Tom Rubillo
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2019, 05:30:25 PM »

GAB News reports that the mill is asking the city to rezone its property from "mixed use" back to "heavy industrial" so that zoning won't be a problem if the mill remains closed for more than a year.  That restriction -- that the mill could not stay closed for more than a year without losing the right to re-open -- was included in the amendment of the zoning ordinance the last time the issue of land use came before the city council.  A compromise was reached, as I recall, to not count any time during which the mill was shut down because of a labor dispute. Mill owners (reportedly supported by the union) are asking that the city reinstate the old "heavy industrial" zoning.  If it did so and the mill shut down because it wasn't making any money, the owners would have an unlimited amount of time to try to sell it to someone else, not just one year as presently allowed.  The pressure is back on council members regarding this issue. 

City residents deserve some protection here.  The mill can't be allowed to close and then rust as an eyesore in the center of town indefinitely.  There has to be some time limit.  I suggest a compromise that would demonstrate good faith on both sides.  The city should agree to extend the one year limitation to two or three years (with extensions available if good faith negotiations about resale are proven to be on-going) BUT only do so if, as a demonstration of its own good faith, the mill cleans up the part of the property that it no longer uses for production.  That's the half of the property stretching from Wood to Dozier Streets between Front St. and the Sampit River.  The mill would remove all the industrial structures formerly associated with the ferreduction operation (the towers).  It could melt them down and make steel rod with the scrap.  Once cleaned up, it could market the property for light industrial or commercial use as agreed upon by the city.

Count the number of letters.  Compromise is not a four letter word.  Simply giving in to the steel mill's demands, on the other hand, would be simple political cowardice.  The mill wants something.  The residents of Georgetown should get something in return.  That's my view of it anyway.
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forklift driver
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2019, 05:59:57 PM »

Jame E. Sanderson, JR said “If they were shutting down, why would they worry about the zoning?" DUHHHH?!? That's exactly why they are worrying about the zoning. The last shutdown went on for years. They are headed for another one and James even admitted it. Read the whole article and you will understand Jamed E. Sanderson, Jr. knows what is happening. SOON.
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concernedperson
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2019, 06:05:32 PM »

"Chris" posted on Scott Harper's blog....

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AUG 14  •  What is best for the city is to keep mill running. Front Street is nothing should be call drunk street. Needs one big Dozier to level it. Does not reflect Georgetown in a good way.

I disagree. The Steel Mill should be torn down after it shuts down this time. Front Street will flourish then.
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